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i'm not going to. i am going to try and catch it this week. all right, my friend, good to see, a great show as always. tonight on ayman,tonight on aymn four seasons of accountability, we're going to dive into his packed trial calendar and take a special look at the outstanding cases we are all waiting for including finding the investigation in georgia. plus, fighting back texas women are opening up about the harsh dangerous restrictions on abortion in that state. republican roadblock john roberts won't fix the supreme courts. republicans in congress, they are giving him cover. i'm ayman mohyeldin let's get started. >> donald trump has escaped accountability almost his entire life. this year, every thing is changing. welcome to the summer of
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accountability. while we are at it now the fall, the winter, the spring the 2024, all of them about accountability as well. there is a litigation there's civil trials, everywhere you look for donald trump there is a legal challenge. the latest calendar entry, may 20th 2024. that is the day judge aileen cannon just an ounce for the classified documents trial against trump. at least four other cases are scheduled to go to trial before the documents case. we want to give you a quick recap of what they are. they are the trump organization civil fraud trial. that's scheduled for october 2nd. the lawsuit brought by new york attorney general letitia james claiming trump committed fraud by inflating his net worth by billions of dollars. only to get richer. two months, later eugene carroll's a second civil defamation lawsuit will go to trial on january 5th 2024. that same month on january 29th, a trial is scheduled in a
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federal class action lawsuit against are accusing trump and his company of promoting a pyramid scheme. there is march 25th where he will face a jury on new york state criminal charges that he falsified business records in connection with hush money payments to stormy daniels. wait there is more. there are at least two other investigations in which trump might be charged. special counsel jack smith's probe into the efforts to overturn the 2020 election and of course finding willis's election interference in investigations down in georgia. donald trump has never been more legally vulnerable. guess what it shows. >> if you do something bad to, us we are going to do things to you that even have never been done before. >> trump shared that deranged video on his failed social media site this week. trump can run well hurling mafia like threats. the truth is, there is nowhere
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for him to hide. even if he waives his right to testify in these trials, repeating his decision in that first carol trial, even then, his own words and a video deposition came back to haunt him. while it's obvious that this news isn't good for trump himself, it's also terrible for the republican party. the classified documents trial will start at the tail end of the gop primary calendar. he could already be by that point the republican nominee. by then the potential nominee will have been twice impeached at least twice indicted, possibly more. and could face more fines and penalties as the focus of those trials. we all know how trump feels about candidates like that. >> we could very well have a sitting president under felony indictment and ultimately a criminal trial. >> if she were to win this election it would create an
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unprecedented constitutional crisis. >> we have an all-star panel tonight. lisa reuben, msnbc legal analyst, christina greer, associate professor of political science at fordham university. author of the book black ethics race immigration and the pursuit of the american dream. tim hey fee, former lead investigator for the january 6th select committee. it's great to have all three of you with us. lisa, i will start with you, i mean what is the most potentially dangerous trial trump is facing here. there are still some in the pipeline. at least from the ones that we know about definitively. >> with respect him into the ones we know about definitively, there is no question that it's the records case that's pending and the district of florida. however the two that are outstanding in that charge you showed, the department of justice and special counsel's outstanding investigation into january six, an election interference, and then fulton county georgia district attorney finally --
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the investigation into election interference. those are largely thought to cause more danger to donald trump than anything that he's currently facing. both in terms of time that would be served, but also in terms of electoral consequences. in terms of reminding the american people what exactly donald trump tried to do and how narrowly he was prevented from doing it. >> christina, how can trump campaigns with all these trials and investigations going on at the same time, it is a guy, he's demonstrated he's able to spin everything to his advantage. certainly, he can fund-raise. can it politically work for him as well? >> i think so, i'm. and he will be both the victim and the hero of his own story that he narrates. we know that the media has an obsession with talking about him. we are talking about him on a sunday night. he knows he will get lots of free press. so the money that he is raising from these, you know, individuals in the party who were cobbling together their
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pennies to give him money, he's using it for his legal fees. he is a master at getting free press. he will go around the country as a snake oil salesman does. this is a witch hunt. this has been a witch hunt since 2016. he never wanted to be present. and now they're preventing it again. and then it will turn on people in his own party. essentially with democrats. and he knows that his primary voters are very strong voters. he's intimidate people at his own party. so he's a hero storming to the country protecting them and taking away other peoples civil liberties and we have. he's also the victim which is why he needs their money and their time and their attention and their vote. >> tim, as a former lead investigator of the january 6th select committee, what was your reaction to that target letter that smith sent to trump this weekend and how much of it that matches up to what you and your colleagues on the committee were able to dig up and find. >> yes, i'm, and we send him a
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subpoena and asked him actually, try to compel him to come in and tell the story. he ignored it. jack smith very similarly is giving him an opportunity to provide information that would bear upon prosecutorial decisions. not surprisingly, much like his response to us, which was silence. jack smith is getting the same. the offenses, they are identified in the target letter. very familiar to us. we looked at the entire federal criminal code we recommended that the justice department evaluate obstruction of proceeding, 15 12, conspiracy to defraud the united states. disrupt the function of government. 1001, they fall statement claim that corresponds to the fake electors. we identified aiding and comforting an insurrection. we did not identify the 2:41 deprivation of several rights. i think that there are a lot of statutes, that one included, that fit the court conduct.
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the key here, amen, there are a number of federal statutes that the special counsel's identifying. all of which may apply to not just the president and former president, conspiracy of others. the only mystery left, hooley charged in the conspiracy and what will the counts be? how much detailed information will be indictment contain? >> lisa, we also learned this week, the federal grand jury and the election interference case heard testimony from former white house aide will russell who was with trump on january six. you tweeted out earlier this week that you actually talked to sources about his testimony. tell us what you heard. what might his testimony -- why motive might his testimony be compelling? >> a man, i want to make sure that i am clear about what it was that folks said to us. it wasn't so much about his grand jury testimony as it was about the lack of testimony
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either for moral or informal that he gave to the january six committee. as you know, and as tim, knows extraordinarily thorough in covering the full landscape of folks involved in election interference efforts from folks involved in extremist movements to those at the highest levels of the white house. they really covered the range. will russell, not only wasn't among those witnesses, he wasn't a name that really came up at all. he's not mentioned in the report. at least in my experience of reviewing the transcript so far, he's not an entity where you would expect him to come up among people whose job functions were similar to his. so, what it is that he has to say to the grand jury, i think largely depends on what other folks who didn't come before the committee might say. that's a group of people that includes mark meadows, dan scavino, and additional testimony that was protected from the -- because of privilege issues. people like eric herschmann, pat cipollone. pat filled. then they gave more extensive
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testimony on court order to the grand jury than they did to the january six committee. those folks might have a sense of what will russell overheard and or what the president said to him that bears on his knowledge. >> let me talk to you about the politics of this for a moment. i'm one of these who believe that the republican party now is donald trump. donald trump is the republican party. some people on the other hand they say, you have many candidates who are still running. they make up, if you take all their support, you get the sense that more republicans want somebody other than donald trump. they just can't agree on who that other person should be. how stressed must republicans be that the man they may nominated to be their presidential candidate will be the center of at least five trials by then. they've been indicted at least twice. do they not care? >> i think they are quite worried. a man, here is the deal. fortune favors the bold. we have yet to see a republican
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candidate who has the courage to come out and boldly say this cannot this -- man cannot be our nominee. here all the reasons why. they can run through all the indictment. they can list all the reasons why by may 2024. this is a former president who will be -- i don't know if he'll be politically damaged. what does it mean for our party? what does it mean for the future of the country? et cetera. we don't have -- we haven't seen any republican candidates thus far who have the courage to come out against donald trump. they are so afraid of this primary voter. they are so afraid, they know that donald trump will turn on them either, attacking some weaknesses that they may have had politically in the past or just making applies. we know that he is more than comfortable to do. so, until the republican party can organize themselves, and you can have a candidate or candidates plural come together, before they get to the stage before they start really
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campaigning on a granular level, if they really start coming out and police saying it, then they might get some traction before we see that it will continue to be the party of donald trump. they will be continued to he will -- lead all the conversation. policy and otherwise. because members of this party are quite frankly afraid of him. and tim i gotta get your reaction speaking of the spineless republicans, you got former vice president mike pence and another network this morning saying, while he found trump's words on january 6th to be reckless he's quote not convinced that they were criminal. mike pence just continues to defy every meaningful word you know about integrity, about principle, about moral character. he just continues to shock every time i hear him speak about this. >> well look reckless of themself can be criminal. there are many examples of criminal law that reckless conduct rise to criminality. i think select committee found
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was beyond recklessness but her splits full. their intense standards in the criminal. i think there's ample evidence that president trump group of others at a very specific intent to obstruct that joint session. that was more than reckless. you think is maybe as words on the ellipse were reckless, speaking to an angry mob that he knew was armed, at least some of the people in that crowd were armed. but the whole course of dealing beyond the speech itself to the multi part plan to disrupt the joint session, that's more than reckless, that's intention. at least i believe that's what the evidence that we found show, that is the crucial question for jack smith. >> panel, please stick around to gallop more to discuss. we're gonna take a quick break. afterwards we are going to take a focus on georgia where a fourth indictment might soon await donald trump. don't go away. don't go away. rn on everything with just one card. chase freedom unlimited. so, if you're off the racking... ...or crab cracking, you're cashbacking. cashback on flapjacks, baby backs,
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district finding wallace who has been investigating donald
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trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election in georgia, announced earlier this year that her staff would begin a remote work period during the first three weeks of august. that period is set to begin in just over a week from now. it has been speculated in this remote work section is the likeliest time during which willis might or announce decisions in the election interference case to the public. just this week, state they rejected trump's bid to disqualify willis's bid from his case, and tossed out the special grand jury report the recommended criminal charges. let's bring in my panel to continue the conversation. lisa, how significant is this upcoming timeframe? the first three weeks of, august what if anything could be potentially hear from fani willis? >> i think ayman we are all waiting to hear that she has indicted a case. the grand juries that were sworn in earlier this month, they expire on september 1st,
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so the combination of that date as sort of an outward bound and the letter that she sent its explaining that 70% of our staff is going to be home leaves most people to believe that we will see an indictment if there is going to be one from fulton county in the first couple of weeks of august. the bounds of that indictment obviously are somewhat up in the air but increasingly there is a lot of chatter about fani willis bringing racketeering charges and having some underlying election interference charges that go along with it. >> yeah, of course everyone remembers when he was being indicted town in miami, fulton county sent the i, believe the sheriff's of a sense people to six see people posturing around security around the courthouse, so that may be also how they're preparing for that eventuality. christina, did trump's legal team ever have a shot at disqualifying willis from this investigation? or was this some kind of either
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delay tactic or for the fund raising play? >> the legal beagles and this thing, from a political standpoint, we know that trump and his lawyers really do like theatrical, they like to lead in the court of public opinion, especially if they can actually lead in physical court. so what they're trying to do is keïta create a course in a court of public opinion, let's be real ayman, is african american woman, we have willis in georgia, we have a brags, an african american man, in the district of manhattan, and so he is essentially trying to make this case that these people can't be fair. they are african americans, they of course don't like me. so i was never going to get a fair shot. the facts are the facts though and we know that this former president not only as cases spanning from florida to georgia to new york, these are really serious claims. so whether or not he will be indicted doesn't seem to matter
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to his base though ayman. many people don't fully know what indictment means, many people don't care, and as long as they think that he is either going to give them their tax breaks or build his wall or continue to take away rights and freedoms and civil liberties of people of color and women across the country, they are fine with it. this is just political theater for them. >> tim, based on your work with the january 6th committee and what we know from news reports, what do you think is the possibility that we will see another trump indictment in this georgia case specifically? >> i think it's almost a certainty ayman that there's going to be an indictment in georgia. we had some interaction with fani willis's team very early, like in the spring of 2021, they were already assembling a team, a very capable team in my limited experience with, it was gathering the facts surrounding attempts to essentially undercut the georgia election. georgia is a very stark example
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of the pattern that we saw happen all over the country. exhaustive research, federal government, fbi and doj evaluation of claims of election fraud and zero evidence being produced. nonetheless, the president and his enablers putting pressure on republican state officials up to and including the secretary of state in that very famous phone call, essentially telling him without foundation factually or legally that he ought to send this alternate fake set of trump electors, getting republicans to generate those fake electors. so i think that the case, the facts about georgia specifically are so compelling that i think they constitute criminal offenses that fani willis and her team will charge, not just against the people in georgia, but against the people in washington like the former president and others who essentially encouraged and facilitated the fraud. and again to be clear, it is a
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similar pattern that we saw on michigan, arizona, that we saw in pennsylvania, nevada, right up all the states there is pressure on republican leadership to do things that they just couldn't do. thankfully there were a lot a very principled republicans its turn up and said no. >> elise, let me switch gears here and ask you about mark meadows. the washington post reports that in a text message that have been obtained by federal prosecutors, meadows joked about the basis clean that large votes of were cast in the names of dead people. this text was sent just before days before meadows joined that infamous phone call between trump and brad raffensperger the, secretary of state of georgia where trump pressured him to quote find 11,780 votes. talk about how this evidence might impact funny willis's investigation and why it might be significant? >> it would be significant first of all, let me say first
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of all ayman that text message was not just obtained by federal prosecutors of, is obtained by the generous a committee, it's publicly available. i tweeted a copy of it earlier today and invite your viewers to go see it for themselves. it's significant because it shows mark meadows who was a participant on a january 2nd call very clearly doubting the veracity of claims about dead voters that the former president then made on that call to raffensperger with no interference by mark meadows. mark meadows never said, no sir that's not true, we never found anywhere near that number of deceased people voting, in fact we only found a handful of them. so if i am fani willis, that phone call, coupled with the text message between mark meadows and eric herschmann could be evidence of mark meadows's intent and his knowledge that the claims advanced by the president without in any interference by him or with his help were in fact false and that mark meadows knew they were false in the entire time.
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>> thank you so much to the panel for joining us tonight. we really appreciate your insights as always. ahead, texas are fights the states republican state abortion ban that is putting women in danger. but first my friend richard louis is here with the headlines. >> russian missiles striking on the city of odessa leaving one dead and 20 injured. to storage buildings were damaged in this including an early 19th century cathedral. president zelenskyy saying there will be quote definitely be a retaliation. this comes after president putin canceled a great deal with ukraine. and wildfires rage in greece for the sixth day, forcing nearly 20,000 people to evacuate from the island of roads. so largest evacuation from off our in the country and more fires are breaking out today as temperatures hit 110 degrees. and the search continues for a nine month old baby swept away in pennsylvania floods last week. the infants two-year-old sister and mother have already been confirmed dead.
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the search for the baby have led to an outburst on social media. more with ayman mohyeldin right after this break. this break
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children in texas anymore. it was very clear that my health didn't really matter but my daughter's health certainly mattered. >> i'm so sorry that i couldn't help her and release her -- she had no mercy. there was no mercy. >> that powerful harrowing testimony was delivered during a two-day hearing this week on the legal challenge to texas's abortion ban. one of the plaintiffs in the ban, samantha casiano even vomited on the stand talking about her baby's fatal birth defect which also put her own life at risk and she was forced to continue carrying her unborn
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child. casiano is one of 13 women who along with two og by winds are suing the state of texas, demanding clarification into all the scenarios that would be considered medical emergencies and allowed for a legal abortion under the state's harsh restrictions. once to support overturned a constitutional right to an abortion last summer, republican backed ban went into effect at long all abortions except to save the life of a pregnant person. the procedure was already severely limited in the state following the passage of sb8 in 2021 and not fanned abortions at six weeks of pregnancy. so the vagueness of this current exception, saving the life of a pregnant person has really left doctors afraid, scared to perform even medically necessary abortions to save the life of another, because the consequences of violating that law including losing your medical license is facing up to 99 years in
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prison. and while this lawsuit is focus just on the texas ban, several states are facing several crises. about half of the country has now banned abortion or severely limited the procedure leaving women and doctors with few options. joining me now is regina davis must, president and ceo of in our own voice, and justice organization. and dr. wendy goodall mcdonald, a board certified ob/gyn based in chicago. it's good that both of you with us. dr. goodall mcdonald i'd like to start with you. you are one of the women who testified this week, she was pregnant with one of the twins, one of the twins had a fatal condition called acrania, and the longer she carried the fetus, the more it put the other twin at risk. and we see clearly that abortions are unnecessary part of reproductive health care. how common are these types of
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complications and as we are well over a year into roe being overturned, what have you seen in your practice? >> so these kind of complications are extremely common. the unfortunate truth of when it comes to pregnancy is that it can be just as beautiful as it can be harmful. one of the other plaintiffs in the case had a pregnancy that the service service began to open and she was going to inevitably lose the baby because the doctors were not allowed to do anything to intervene, which put her health at risk. it actually made her go into sepsis which is an infection that affects her entire body including her uterus, not only put her life in jeopardy but may have impacted her reproduction in the future. so here in my state, we are able to treat abortion as health care because it is that. it is life-saving, it can affect not only the life of the mother of but in this case the
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life of the twins, the child that was to live and go forward. it's really an unfortunate scenario is taking place in texas. >> can i just follow up on that really quickly if i can? what do lawmakers need to understand about how urgent this issue is? talk us through the importance to have clarifications about exceptions so that abortions can be made when we need to save the life of the woman? >> so, the challenge with a lot of these cases is the legislation makes it seem as if the death of the harm to mom has to be impending in your face. we know is health care professionals that there are things that can happen in the coming days or weeks without intervention. so what i think needs to come as clarification as not only do these exceptions need to take place for certain pregnancies, it seems that the life of the mound may not be threatening the mound but you have to take
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if you take these actions, but may be inevitable harms that if we don't intervene, we're actually putting a life of the mom in the baby further at risk. >> regina, you had 19 republican attorneys general asking the biden to withdraw a proposed change to medical privacy laws that would ban doctors and loss from reporting suspected abortions to law enforcement. in other words, they want the ability to continue prosecuting abortions even when it is outside of their jurisdiction. your reactionon h concerning this is. it is safe to say that women no longer have a right to privacy in this country, or at least in all states and expanding in this country? >> yeah, what we are seeing here is just another example of what we call reproductive oppression, which is the regulation of a person's capacity to get pregnant as a strategy to not only control people, but communities an entire populations. so we see things like attacks
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on health care records and the privacy, those things are meant to protect people. doctors don't have to disclose that. we are venturing into things that are meant to protect us, and in fact they are not protecting us. i would say to those lawmakers, you are abandoning your citizens where they're dealing with life-threatening pregnancies, in this is the time where they really need you. so i would say we need to hold up our elected officials accountable. i would also add that this is very much part of a lived experience of everyday women. we saw those heartbreaking testimonies, that's happening all the time, particularly to black women that's why we have to continue to fight for bodily autonomy. >> actually regina is not just the laws that pan abortion which are harming women, there are also ones that don't allow for proper time off after women experience the loss of their newborns. in texas, there was a woman who is denied maternity leave after
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delivering a stillborn baby which added injury to an already incredibly devastating tragedy. she had to use up all her sick time invocation, time receive disability coverage in order to take the come time off that she needed to recover from this. in this reality, what needs to change about these parental to leave parent policies across the country? >> well we know that we need parental leave, and paid parental leave because people need this because, they need not worry about need to make a living wage and to be attentive and fully present for a child. but i would also add, i know, when we look at these things we are thinking about people, and we're forgetting that these are people. we often focus on the statistics. this is real trauma and the reason the people need to seek an abortion is it's always
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urgent but most of all it's private. so what we want to make sure that we are supporting people in this time when they've decided that right now it is just too much for me. >> as i was saying earlier, i think one of the things we are seeing more and more is that unfortunately the privacy of women in this country is constantly being eroded. >> gina davis moss, dr. goodell macdonnell thank you for insights. coming up the senate judiciary committee advances legislation to address the supreme courts -- but will it go anywhere? go anywhere? they have all the top grills and gear. with smoking fast shipping. and wayfair deals so epic... you'll feel like a big deal. yes! so get outdoorsy for way less at wayfair.
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justice john roberts's refusal to tackle go the glaring ethical lapses that dominated the supreme court term. congress is finally taking action. is it week the senate judiciary committee advance legislation that would tighten disclosure recuse of rules that would require the court to finally adopt a formal ethics code. but that's as far as this bill might go. the new york times reports that center republicans have made it clear they will not support this legislation and has no chance of passing in the gop -controlled house. some underwrite are finally conceding that the justices have exhibited poor decision-making and that roberts should take steps to address those issues. the fact that this legislation as even advance this far shows
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how much the court has fallen in the eyes of the public, as americans become more aware of the intimate ties between conservative justices and partisan donors. just this week, the washington post detailed the public relations campaign that leonard leo helped to celebrate justice clarence thomas. joining me now is stern, it's great to see a. thanks for making time for us again. why does it only appear that democrats care about these supreme court ethical issues? what is chief justice john roberts, a man who i guess claims to care about a great deal about the perceived legitimacy of the court, cares about his reputation, its image, its perception not see them as a grave threat to his institution? >> well, you know the chief justice always wants to be calling the shots for the entire judiciary and for his court. remember, he's not the chief justice of the supreme court,
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he's the chief justice of the united states as he likes to remind people. he sits at the head of the entire branch. and anytime he smells even a whiff of interference from congress, he gets his hackles up. he does not want to even create the perception that another branch will be intruding into the judge dish aries prerogative. of course all the while, he's deeply striking down various laws passed by congress and enforced by the president, but to him the supreme court in the judiciary should remain a bastion protected by all other political headwinds, and i think he loves ethics right in with everything else. he views that is just as crucial to judicial independence as the very premise that the court can strike down laws. he says if we are gonna start acting ethically, we won't write our own code and congress sure is hell is not gonna make us do it. >> what can you tell us about this reporting from the washington post about a public relations campaign for clarence thomas apparently organized by
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leonard leo this activist? he wasn't just helping justices get on the court, ostensibly guards their reputations once they are on the bench as well. if anybody needs the reputation at this moment defended, corrected, rehabilitated, it's clarence thomas? >> yes, so leonard leo who is still as we speak the co-chair of the federalist society fronts a massive multi billion dollar dark money network, that he puts into action in various ways. and one of the chief modes of operation over the last two years has been to try to launder and bolster clarence thomas's reputation. the post reporting tells us a lot of new stuff but some we already knew. it's no surprise that he was one of several republican donors to find that ridiculous part of propaganda created equal that actually aired on pbs to the shame of that channel forever i think, and
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try to show clarence as a walmart parking lot 11 couple that stands for the constitution. so this is one arm of his operations. is also with the federalist societies, also got a bunch of organizations that were supporting donald trump's judicial nominees the run ads against joe biden's judicial nominees, and senate republicans are taking money from this bucket as well, which is another reason why it is no surprise they are so vociferously against shining a light on ethics. >> speaking of ethics, i want to ask you about this propublica reporting. they've been digging into this. you've got harlan crow ngo medical using his yacht trips with clarence thomas to reduce his tax bill. walk us through that. how did that happen? >> so harlan crow has claimed that he has a company that is a profit seeking enterprise that he uses to repair and refurbish
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his yacht. and by doing so, he is able to deduct a very large amount of money from his taxes, based on the amount of money that business ostensibly loses each year. what propublica has turned up which appears to be true is that it's all a lie. that this company only exists to service his yachts and his yachts alone, that it's not a profit seeking business, that it's not a business expense in that he is manipulating and exploiting the tax code for illegal purposes. i think it's important we take a step back here ayman. the supreme court literally just took up a case is designed to rollback the 16th amendment. that's the one that allows for an income tax and you see clarence thomas hanging out with billionaire tax cheats, he sort of have to wonder if there might be some overlap between the goals of himself in his friends and his personal life and it jurisprudence goals that he claims are rooted solely in
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the constitution. >> that's a very important point. i don't think a lot of people are falling at that intricately, so i'm glad that you flag it for us. when you get your final thoughts in this news out of texas. mclennan county justice of the peace diane handily filing a lawsuit after estate agency warned her about refusing to marry gay couples. she argues that supreme court's recent creative decision, the one with imaginary gay people at the center of it, should allow her to discriminate against queer americans. it's what we said when the decision came out. this is opened a pandora's box with how they can not discriminate against lgbtq americans? >> it's what justice sonia sonne amar predicted in her dissent. neo-corset gaslighted and said she was exaggerating, making things up, but it only took a few weeks for this texas judge to step forward and say, i don't want to be helping same-sex marriage couples and i now have a first amendment right to do so.
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it's not the last case will seal individuals who play some role in public life who simply don't want to interact with same-sex couples on an equal basis. they will use this decision as a shield to try to protect themselves against all legal ramifications, when what they really engaging in is the most odious in discriminatory form of bigotry that four years our supreme court found to be incredibly obnoxious to the constitution in the people protection laws. >> absolutely incredible and it was clear as day for everyone is watching that case once that decision was made that this was eventually going to happen. mark joseph stern, always a pleasure, cnn for joining. us ahead alabama republicans refused to obey a court order to make their congressional maps more fair. are we surprised? . next. next what do we always say, son? liberty mutual customizes your car insurance... so you only pay for what you need. that's my boy. now you get out there, and you make us proud, huh? ♪
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♪ tourists tourists that turn into scientists. tourists taking photos that are analyzed by ai. we have an important update to so researchers can help life underwater flourish. ♪ a story that we first brought you last month. a court ordered alabama legislation to redraw its congressional map to give black voters more power, effectively more representation. the legislators response to that? not unless we have. to the gop dominated alabama legislation passed the map last week that disregarded a lower court's federal objective. one reinforced in june by the supreme court, that it should include two districts with a black voting age majority or something quite close to it
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when redraws its lines. as political reported, he over the unified egyptians of democrats, instead it came up with him at the fall short of that, with one narrowly black majority districts in one of the black voting age population of just under 40%. in response, democratic state representative chris england, and member of the redistricting committee said, alabama does, what alabama does. ultimately what we are hoping, for i guess, at some point is that the federal court does but it always does to alabama. forces us to do the right thing. courts always have to come in and save us from ourselves. the fight over where they're alabama's new congressional map complies with the voting rights act of 1965 now shifts back to federal courts. republicans have to submit this plan to the same three judge panel that struck it down in a previous districts. after the break, a preview of the new documentary series rain
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wilson and the geography of bliss. don't go anywhere. nywhere.
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as they look to qualify for the knockout stages. kickoff is at 8:30 pm eastern time. and don't go anywhere. in just a moment catch the first episode of rainn wilson and the geography of bliss, the five-part documentary series follows actor rainn wilson exploring some of the happiest places on earth while unpacking the science of happiness along the way. first on rains journey, iceland. >> you started as a standup comic and then kind of almost as a mayor of reykjavík and served as mayor of this world capital. now are you playing a character when he ran for mayor? >> in the beginning, i was playing a character. of a fictional version of. yourself >> exactly. >> rainn wilson and the geography of bliss there is next, ten pm test eastern on msnbc, and it's a core streaming on peacock as well. thank you for making time for us. you can catch ayman back here on msnbc and saturday, and
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twitter, all it aiming at nbc. until then i am ayman mohyeldin in new york. have a good evening. good evening. [birds chirping] - let's do this! - yeah. i'll see you back at the cars. okay, here we go. [overlapping chatter] - there's no tension. we're okay. you can feel the breeze, but it's cozy. - it's cozy... - and a little cool. - okay. - yes. - it's a nice warm breeze from the arctic circle. this is a show about happiness. - breathe in through the nose... on three and out on six. - as you can see... i'm not exactly all smiles right now. so how did i get here?

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